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Journal Entry: Sat Nov 24, 2012, 2:16 PM

I've been recovering from my Black Friday shift at GameStop. Midnight to 11am. In a mall. In a store the size of a closet. It was loads of fun. (Not being too sarcastic here, I do really enjoy working.) I was supposed to work a second job after that, but I got someone to take my shift. The last day has been spent sleeping. Like, that's literally all I've done since my shift ended yesterday morning.

It seems I've utterly failed NaNoEmo. Thankfully, others have not. It's encouraging browsing through the emote gallery and seeing lots of emotes. It's not something that happens too often, because the emote galleries are often filled with more misplaced stuff than emotes. Now that I have my laptop back, I hope to correct that. ;) Tonight will be spent cleaning the gallery of misplaced deviations from the last month. And speaking of the state of the emote galleries, I have some questions for you, dear readers. Feedback would be very, very appreciated.

:bulletwhite: Do you think the emote gallery could use a restructure? I have some ideas in mind (outlined below), but I'd really like to hear suggestions and comments.
:bulletwhite: I'm thinking of starting up a series of monthly contests in the same vein as The Non-Emote Emote Contest. Would you participate?
:bulletwhite: Are you happy overall with the state of the emote community? Is there something you would like to see improved?
:bulletwhite: Anything else you'd like to say?

Now, as for restructuring, here's what I have in mind:

:bulletblue: Keep the galleries organized into animated or static, and by small, medium, or large. I believe it makes it easy to find exactly the kind of emote you are looking for.
:bulletblue: Get rid of the Projects galleries. I don't believe emote projects are common enough to warrant their own gallery, and more miscats are submitted here than actual emote project things. Project bases and templates could be submitted to Emoticons > Other/Misc. Entries for projects could be submitted to the respective animated/static and size galleries.
:bulletblue: Get rid of the Packs gallery. This is one I'm not so sure about. Again, this is a gallery where there are more things that don't belong are submitted than things that do. But, I'm not sure where packs would be submitted instead. Feedback would be especially helpful here.

I'm not even sure if I'd be allowed to do so, but if the community in general would be behind it, it may be able to be done. :)

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BlissfullySarcastic Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2012
This is the second time I had to type this. :stare:

I think the gallery can use a bit of restructing. I agree that you could take away projects, maybe, to get rid of a bunch of miscats. But it might not be the best route to go, not sure either way. I do not at all agree with getting rid of packs, though. Packs are almost always free to use resources, and if someone is looking for a pack, they are very specifically looking for a pack. :giggle:
I'd also, honestly, take out the sizing completely. That was never something I agreed with. I find it unnecessary and it's harder to find what you're looking for, if...say you want any sized animated emote, and you have to select a size before going animated. Also, lots of miscats there because it might be too big one way and too small the other.

If I, personally, were to redo the emote gallery, it'd be something similar to:
  1. Emoticons
    • Chat-Friendly Emoticons
      • Static

      • Animated

    • Emoticon Scenes and Objects (I'd rename Visual Purpose, as that name is very vague and causes a lot of confusion)
      • Static

      • Animated

    • Emoticon Packs

    • Miscellaneous Emoticons (though I might scrap that category completely)

  2. As for your other questions...:slow:

    I don't think I'd enter non-emote emote contests, but I'd definitely pimp them out for you if you'd like. I would enter emote contests (as that's the area I'm best in ;)) and promote them, but I'm not really...good with any other art form to enter non-emote ones.

    I think I'm happy with the way things are turning up in the emote community for the first time in months. :happybounce: Steady stream of art, large waves of support, lots of community-aimed projects and contests. Very excited.

    Thanks for taking the time to ask these questions and the time to sort the gallery. Very much appreciated. :huggle: Proud to have you as our current CV. :la:
litecrush Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2012  Student Digital Artist
I agree with `Synfull. The miscellaneous gallery is very nondescript and would be better if it was deleted. It causes confusion and about everything that goes into it can be sorted into either visual purpose or chat friendly unless it is a miscat.

I don't think that getting rid of the projects gallery would be wise even though it doesn't get a lot of traffic. Projects are, and have been, very important to the community and they'd get lost if sorted into visual purpose or chat friendly. I believe that it serves a good enough purpose to remain in our emoticon gallery. I think the same way about the packs gallery. If it could be done, `Synfull's suggestion about the restricting the packs gallery to .zip files would be a good way to keep miscats out.

I agree with you that we should keep the animated and static separation with small, medium, and large. I think that if we were to do away with the animated and static separation, static emotes may get buried when viewing popular overall. Also I do actually enjoy having the ability to see either only static or only animated. It helps when I want to find inspiration that I can feed off of to make my art better. Both require some different skill sets and them being in separate sub-galleries help a lot for viewing purposes in my opinion.

I also agree with *a-kid-at-heart. Having a gallery folder where miscellaneous gifs could go and stay would be a great way to prevent miscats in our gallery. I don't believe that the miscellaneous gallery already in place in our gallery does that. To be effective, I think that it'd have to be under the customization sub-gallery rather than the emoticon one (like *a-kid-at-heart suggests). I don't know if this is in your ability as a CV but it would be great if it could be done.

Like `Krissi001 said, deviants won't stop mis-categorizing deviations. Having as many sub-galleries as we do, it must be hard weeding through and getting rid of miscats. Yet I believe that if we do cut down our sub-galleries, it will not help with preventing miscats at all. The miscats that deviants place in projects and packs will then just be sorted into chat friendly, visual purpose, or miscellaneous instead.

A monthly contest from you would be good for the community. The more variety we have the better yet then again I think that, because we do have `SparklyDest's EMTC, having another monthly contest to accompany that wouldn't be too beneficial since our community is fairly small in general. Yet that may not be the case. I think promotion and contribution to ongoing events and contests would be very beneficial. Contests or no contests, overall, more art creation, collaborations, and interactions are the most needed things in this community and if you can accomplish and reinforce that then that's all that counts. c:
ChaosEmeraldHunter Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2012  Student General Artist
Thank you very much for that reply. I do agree that the Misc gallery could use some work, but I don't think it needs to be deleted. Sometimes an emote is submitted that really just doesn't belong in chat friendly or visual purpose. I can't think of a specific example right now, but they're bound to exist. :shifty: I think we should maybe change it to what other galleries are doing and rename it to "Other", and supply a better description.
Krissi001 Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2012
I have to agree with *a-kid-at-heart, deviants won't stop to submit miscats to the gallery. :C It is better to have a place where they can submit what they want, so the "main" gallery has lesser miscats. :noes:
a-kid-at-heart Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I don't believe restricting the current folder options will reduce the miscats, just cause them to be mixed in even more with emoticons.

Maybe what you need is a folder that better represents the typical miscat. (Customization - Misc GIF - Animated GIF's/Static GIF's - Sm/Md/Lg) People certainly produce a large number of those type of .gif images, but don't seem to know where to place them, so give them a better option to choose.
ChaosEmeraldHunter Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2012  Student General Artist
The thing about most of the misc .gifs that people submit is that they shouldn't be submitting them in the first place. They are most often something they ripped from another site, or a clip from a TV show. Nothing that they originally made. So I don't think making another gallery would help reduce those, and would probably just encourage it. I think there's kind of sort of a gallery for original non-emote .gifs anyway. I've been redirecting those .gifs to the Digital Art > Misc > Animated gallery.
a-kid-at-heart Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I don't disagree with anything you're saying. I appreciate the effort to fix the problem too. I'm just saying if they're going to upload it anyway (and I'm pretty sure they are), I'd just assume they upload it in their own gallery. =)

Curious, are you re-directing all non-emote .gifs (inc. the rip-offs), or just the original works?
ChaosEmeraldHunter Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2012  Student General Artist
I'm redirecting just the original works. I'm sending the rip-offs to scraps or reporting them. Most of the miscats (including those photo packs) get sent to scraps.
a-kid-at-heart Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
:thumbsup: Gotchya! :nod:
happy-gurl Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2012
I think it's okay as it is, but I suggest giving a size restriction to project bases and templates. Usually emote templates are 150x150 or smaller, and the miscats are generally larger than that, so it would remove all those pony bases :B (I don't know if that's even possible but it would be awesome :la:)
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